in the united states hasn't been here in a while. >> hasn't been here since 1999. the first time we had a summit the it's outside washington, d.c. in the great stiff chicago. >> jon: it's very exciting. it's the smart defense initiative. is that correct? >> that's one of initiatives were putting forward, yes. >> jon: how does that contrast with the defense initiatives we've been doing in the past that we didn't think to name smart? >> it's a good question which is -- >> jon: thank you. >> it really is because it isn't true that we've been doing dumb defense up to that point. we noticed that. >> jon: when you say smart defense you don't think ooh i think this might actually look bad ultimately. >> because of using that language. what we're trying to do is having countries facing significant financial problems finding waying how can they use the dollars they spend on defense smarter than they did before hand. >> the hypothetical countries having financial problems -- [ laughter ] >> jon: would that include anybody. >> all 28. >> jon: is anybody going to raise their h